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  The JW life is good!

  by Julia Orwell in

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  for some people.

  i think of the old man who has no family and lives in a nursing home, and the only time he gets out is when he's picked up for the meetings.

  he lives solely for that.. or people who love routine and busy-ness, people who need to be led.. george orwell wrote that the party is best able to impose its worldview on those least likely to understand what it is that's being asked of them: orthodoxy is unconsciousness.. i believe a lot of jws swallow the party line and it passes through them unharmed, like a seed pooped out by a bird.

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  Black Sheep

  As long as they went looking I've done my job.
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  The JW life is good!

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for some people.

  i think of the old man who has no family and lives in a nursing home, and the only time he gets out is when he's picked up for the meetings.

  he lives solely for that.. or people who love routine and busy-ness, people who need to be led.. george orwell wrote that the party is best able to impose its worldview on those least likely to understand what it is that's being asked of them: orthodoxy is unconsciousness.. i believe a lot of jws swallow the party line and it passes through them unharmed, like a seed pooped out by a bird.

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  Black Sheep

  I recently had a JW say that they had a problem with the killer god killing good people and children, then switch to denying they taught that.

  I then challenged them to show me literature to back up their new position. They have made no effort to do that.
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  The JW life is good!

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for some people.

  i think of the old man who has no family and lives in a nursing home, and the only time he gets out is when he's picked up for the meetings.

  he lives solely for that.. or people who love routine and busy-ness, people who need to be led.. george orwell wrote that the party is best able to impose its worldview on those least likely to understand what it is that's being asked of them: orthodoxy is unconsciousness.. i believe a lot of jws swallow the party line and it passes through them unharmed, like a seed pooped out by a bird.

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  Black Sheep

  Question #1 There is nothing on the list that wasn't available elsewhere.

  Question #2 The list is too long to bother starting.

  OCD is a good description of the behaviour of many of my JW family members. They live in a world of evil people that bust their asses looking after them in their old age and disease in return for having their babies killed at Armageddon because they didn't join their church.

  They are happy until they have to defend their nasty little killer god to someone who knows what they really teach inside the KH walls.
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  My experience today

  by leaving_quietly in

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  2. friends

  discussion with wife today led to her questioning whether i believe or not.

  i told her that i just can't roll over and accept everything new thing they say just like that.

  we were, of course, talking about the "new light".

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  Black Sheep

  You talk too much and she doesn't want to hear it. Ask questions instead. If she gives an answer that you know is contradicted in the Bible, the WT, or the secular source she is quoting make her feel she should read you the relevent document as soon as she finds it. Now would be good, you go make the coffee while she gets it.
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  Constructive feedback for AAWA leadership (IMHO)

  by besty in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  1 - reconsider your existence - there might be a reason why the most effective resources to date have been solo efforts.

  2 - recognize that even well-intentioned organizations will firstly seek self-preservation.

  3 - be aware that egos and emotional stupidity have torn apart much grander edifices than aawa.

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  Black Sheep

  I haven't seen any criticism of any good works, Marvin. We all appreciate the hard work that has been done and use it in our own ways.
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  Is it GOOD that God KILLS BABIES??? Help needed in debate

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  [endif]hello all,.

  my wife and i are atheists, raised and living as jehovah's witnesses.

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  Black Sheep

  Try not to do her reasoning for her.

  Ask a question then shut up and make her do all the talking. Keep asking yourself if she is really answering the question you asked, or is she tricking you into a change of subject?

  Give her a guilt trip for any tricks she tries. Feign being offended.

  Remember that you don't need to justify leaving as you haven't actually left. You want her to justify remaining with a church with this infanticidal god.

  Show her pictures of kids getting killed in wt pubs, especially pubs she raised you with and that she would have studied.

  You need her to tell you she has problems with her beliefs and she won't do that if you are doing all the talking, so practice a bit of shut up.
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  Public Apology Nathan Natas

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  i'd like to offer a public apology to nathan natas for making a wrong decision when i deleted him.. i allowed a combination of previous issues we'd had and input from other forum members to bias my decision which lead me to what i now, in hindsight, believe to have been a mistake.. whether you want to come back and post here or not i wanted to at least say sorry and will reactivate your account..

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  Black Sheep
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  Poorly photoshopped image in the April WT-public edition?

  by Theocratic Sedition in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this image is on page 9 of the 2013 april public edition wt.

  is it me or has that long hair been digitally lengthened?

  the longer portion of his hair doesn't even blend with the hair closest to his roots.

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  Black Sheep

  I doubt they would have thought to photoshop the reflectors on the bikes
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  Neanderthals - Another Human Race?

  by Comatose in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gone are the days of scoffing at ape men.

  it used to be you would have jws ridicule evidence of neanderthals existence.

  now the wt can't deny they existed so they say,well they were just another race of man.

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  Black Sheep

  They conveniently forget to mention that Trinkous also believes they were around 24,500 years ago.
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  Got an interview

  by LouBelle in

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  as some of you know, i had no job last year, then finally got something in an industry that i know nothing about.

  the environment and people haven't been the best, but i had to stick it out and hope that things would improve.

  i have kept my eye and ears open for opportunities more in my field of expertise - which is print advertising.. i sent through my cv for a job i saw advertised in the newspaper for an advertising sales rep - applied and now i have an interview to go too tomorrow.. i've learnt not to get my hopes up - i am glad for the interview and i hope it goes well..

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  Black Sheep

  Cool. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.